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| I might use Griffiths speech, but not the equal part since it causes dismay. |
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| Fantastic episode. I love how it's slowly building up to where Guts' life is looking more tragic than ever and Griffith the complete opposite of that. Also, it might have just been me, but there was something very Dezaki Osamu-eque about the directing in this episode. I know that when something feels like that i'm in good company. |
| I think that may have been the best episode of any anime ever |
| I was hoping that I was wrong about Griffith being an 'A' and using everyone as his pawn to achieve his goals. It is kind of obvious that he's seducing the princess to ascend in his ranks.. (/become king) poor poor Guts. That must have hurt him so much overhearing what Griffith was telling the princess. But who knows, maybe this is all part of his plan.. I was yelling at the screen watching this episode when Guts' assassination wasn't very ninja-ish, lol. Just kill Count Julius and it's done. But nope he kills the kid cos he's a witness. Then he kills a bunch of other people cos they saw him kill the kid, lol. wth, man. After all this , this made me love Guts as a character even more , haha. |
| Damnnnnn every episode is sooo good and addicting. Love the meaningful relationships and themes of this series so far, damn Guts was savage killing that kid and 10 other people lol nice assassination.... Griffith.... Cant wait to see the next episode. This show brings so much emotion too, also loving the ost. |
| Oh no, the poor kid... Griffith's words have made Guts skeptical about their relationship |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
| First... why using Guts for a secret assassination? Then... based on what Griffith said, all his army is only made of pawns here to allow him his goal. (social ascension, I suppose) Guts also is listed as someone he can't consider to be a friend since he's just an aimless wanderer. Until here, it's what I had understood except for the Guts part. I was certain he was seeing him almost as an equal. Well, it turns out to be just a stronger pawn. 4/5 |
| When Guts fled into the sewer with an arrow protruding from an open wound in his arm, all i could think was, "Dang, that's gonna get infected!" |
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| Goddammit Griffith you cold hearted bastard. He's finally showing his true colors. and lmao at Guts turning the assassination job into a fuckin massacre. R.I.P poor little boy |
| Griffith is finally revealing how evil and scary he is. |
 張大です for 張大勇督察 |
| Griffith's stare is the best! I don't know why but i think Guts is going to turn against Griffith really soon. |
| Sending out Guts in the first place was the questionable decision. Can't wait for Griffith to be an actual antagonist. What a bitch. |
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| Great episode. Guts logic is: No one will notice if there is no one to notice. LOL Griffith is scary. |
| that stare at the end tho |
| Guts is like the worst assassin ever lmao. Also did not expect him to ram his sword at the kid though, damn. |
| This wasn't well translated from Manga to Anime. It's as if Guts killed the boy after seeing him first. In the manga, he only realized it's a boy after stabbing him, because the incident occurs in a much darker place. I still don't understand why Griffith the dickhead entrusted this to Guts and not Judeau. R.I.P Adonis :( |
| Disturbing episode. Seems like things will get more serious from now on. Really like the way the story is taking. TogameCheerio said: This wasn't well translated from Manga to Anime. It's as if Guts killed the boy after seeing him first. In the manga, he only realized it's a boy after stabbing him, because the incident occurs in a much darker place. Thanks for this, it's truly important. |
| I confirm, in the manga Guts didn't know it was the kid. And we can see he feels very bad about it. |
| Another great episode from a great series This actually might be the best one in a while. Too much tension. I cried when Guts killed the general's kid. Guts is an incredibly tragic character. Griffith is the GOAT Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
DeadlyRavenJul 20, 2019 4:00 PM
| Susumu Hirasawa's OST makes this show even better. Guts' theme is perfect... |
| Guts really isn't good when it comes to assasinations, suprised none noticed that the same guy who carries big ass sword also used that sword in assasinations. Well with that being said, the episode was very dark and great, its rare to see children death in anime |
| Guts might be a great warrior, but he's a really shitty assassin. He didn't even have a plan how to escape after killing his target, did he? |
| Oh man did I feel bad for Adonis (the kid). Finally Casca is becoming likeable, i really don't want to hate and am trying really hard. Griffith has a superiority complex like no other, he is definitely the hier to the throne now. The Bald Minister got the same Death Gaze, guess it is time for you to go too lol. I feel slightly bad for Guts. |
| --AbiSa-- |
| Griffith is such an unnerving character. Something about him is so off. |
| Revisiting this episode, it is simply so good. The dialogue, storyboard and soundtrack hits differently, and then the assassination by Guts.. wow it still hurts to see his face for the scenes that follows. |
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| Another episode that joins the "I loved it" group. Holy shit, talk about a bad situation turning worse. Guts didn't have any hesitation when running that kid through, only afterwards.I don't understand why he didn't leave the way he came, but instead thinks it's a better idea to fight his way through all those soldiers. Then the talk of Griffith about how he only thinks of his true friends as equals... Seems like that assassination, together with that little speech has finally driven the wedge in between Guts & Griffith. I imagine they will slowly drift apart more and more. I also laughed when he gave Foss the hawk-eye. Lol, can he read minds or something? Or is he just that smart. I'm still wondering what powers the Behelit gives him. It's more than just the devil's luck I believe. Wow man, Guts killed the kid. I gotta say that I didn't see that one coming, so good job. Edit: Apparrently in the manga, it's clear that Guts didn't know it was a kid until afterwards. That's quite an important detail, because here it seems like it's quite obvious. There were better ways to direct this scene. Just show the door going slightly ajar, then a zoom in to Guts rushing for the door, then the sound of a blade cutting flesh... AND THEN show it's the kid. Here, it just looked so predetermined. |
JezzmanMar 11, 2021 10:50 AM
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| Watching as that young boy's life helplessly flickered out has probably been the single most disturbing scene so far. It's the first time I've seen Guts in a bad light, especially since he didn't hesitate at all. It's chilling to see what lengths he seems to be going for Griffith's sake at this point. |
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| What a brutal and fantastic episode. Easy 5/5 and probably my favorite episode to date. Guts assassinating everyone like that (including the more innocent ones) hurt but it was so well done and I'm glad he survived in the end. That convo between Griffith and charlotte was super interesting and ahh that smile. Griffith is so interesting and I love it. |
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| LMAO THIS MAN DID NOT JUST KILL A BOY AFTER KILLING HIS FATHER AND THEN TRY COMFORTING HIM 😭😭😭💀💀💀💀💀 yes i fkin understand guts's conditions |
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| No witnesses the kid had to die |
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Was Ironic to see the Guts Dreaming about the killing after killing Adonis! But I feel the story is gaining the turn, its turning out to be interesting |
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| [quote=propofol message=54165516]Disturbing episode. Seems like things will get more serious from now on. Really like the way the story is taking. Yep. Even I feel the same here. |
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| Shocking! I like that the poor boy only gasped and wept after Guts stabbed him; a much more stark portrayal of death then him saying anything at all. It's also interesting that after being a snake the entire series Julius is given a modicum of complexity before his death; on chiding from his servant he seems to acknowledge he was being unfair to his son out of his own frustration. Guts has probably killed hundreds of people but this time he actually feels guilt; this was murder, not a matter of survival. The self-loathing he's striken with was well portrayed in the nightmare he had after falling into the sewer; he feels as evil as the demon which is the only thing he fears and reproaches himself with the murder of his "father" (for the second time!) and even himself. It's no wonder his face looks so worn and empty for the rest of the episode. I took Griffith's speech to indicate he does not consider Guts his friend; Guts doesn't have a "dream" of his own, after all. The past few years have been the story of him drawing closer and more loyal to Griffith and supporting his dream, whatever it is, but that's exactly what Griffith said meant his soldiers were not his friends. Guts disgracing himself with the murder of that child was only to help Griffith, after all. In giving up his distrustful and lonely life to join the Band of Hawks it seems he was just chasing an illusion. |
| I loved the dream sequence. As Adonis died, he saw Guts as a hideous monster, not unlike the way Guts viewed Zodd. It's always difficult to read Guts, but clearly some wheels are turning in his brain right now about the person he's become. I think that's the difference between him and Griffith, who is revealing himself more and more to be a sociopath. |
cam_eleonJul 9, 2022 11:40 PM
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| This was such a heavy episode! When he killed that boy, it was so sad that I could cry, if I could cry easily. And the old man that looked after the kid... I guess I can feel him a little. |
| Forum avatar: Lu, from Isekai Nonbiri Nouka |
| Berserk is getting darker! I think it's the first time that Guts kills a completely innocent person, a boy that reminds him. Lucius death was great to see. And the scheming minister is terrified by Griffith. I think the most important part is the one where Griffith says what he considers "a true friend", Guts never tried to become like that, he only followed orders so far. |
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| This episode is dark as fuck. not to mention Griffith admitting that he is just using his comrades as tools that help him reach his ugly ass dream. |
| What's With The White Hair Random Staredowns , Cuz Of Animation Come Off As Funny Instead Of Serious |
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